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 Post subject: The Holy Grail and Camelot
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Have any of you watched the 1967 musical "Camelot"? If you have, and if you had watched the holy grail just previously, you may have noticed some striking similarities. Perhaps the Pythons modeled parts of their comedic masterpiece after this more traditional story of King Arthur? Anyway here are some similarities I noticed:

-Lancelot charges into the fray eagerly and aggressively.
-At times Arthur(in Camelot) sounds strikingly similar to Graham Chapman
-Camelot the movie is a musical; Arthur describes Camelot as a "silly place" expressly because of their singing.

So, coincidence or purposeful parody? I leave it to you to decide.
And let me know of more similarities!!!

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*Camelot the musical became associated with JFK; the holy grail opening credits include Nixon - could be coincidence.

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Funny, I have heared the same thing - though I did not see the film version of the musical.

*Camelot the musical became associated with JFK; the holy grail opening credits include Nixon - could be coincidence.

But THG also resembles "The Seventh Seal" in a lot of ways.

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Hey! I finally have a reply w00t!

yeah ive never seen the seventh seal. I didn't notice the prsidents thing either

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darkandlumpy wrote:
Hey! I finally have a reply w00t!

yeah ive never seen the seventh seal. I didn't notice the prsidents thing either


I thought 7th seal was VERY VERY boring, but apparently it is some sort of a classic. But there are too many similarities to be coincidence: the b&w shots in the trailer, the opening credits, the flaggelants, the witch - after all, witch trials aren't normally a part of the arthurian legend.

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Movies like Spartacus and Ben-Hur were a huge influence
on LOB, not only in visual style but a few lines.

Did you know that I was in a school play of Ben-Hur?
A gorgeous actress, she played the part of Ben. And I played Her.


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Sir Michael the Naughty wrote:
Movies like Spartacus and Ben-Hur were a huge influence
on LOB, not only in visual style but a few lines.

Did you know that I was in a school play of Ben-Hur?
A gorgeous actress, she played the part of Ben. And I played Her.


Well, HUGE influence... don't overreact. The main Spartacus tribute is the "I'm Brian!" scene. And I can't think of a specific Ben-Hur inspired sketch actually. After The Fall of the Roman Empire in 1964 Hollywood had already stopped making antiquity epics for 15 years, when LoB was made (only in 2000 would Hollywood return to films about the Roman Empire with Gladiator - not counting an occasional biblical film).

In any case monty python never turns itself into a parody of any one single film, that's why it is better then the average Mel Brooks film that just takes one specific bloackbuster and turns that upside down.

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lol wow I'd never noticed all of those. Thanks guys!

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Sir Michael the Naughty wrote:
Movies like Spartacus and Ben-Hur were a huge influence
on LOB, not only in visual style but a few lines.

Did you know that I was in a school play of Ben-Hur?
A gorgeous actress, she played the part of Ben. And I played Her.


And not forgetting the Holy Grail poster tag line Make Ben Hur Look look like an epic.


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